BVP M-80

TheRussianLord · 10-16-2007

The BVP M-80 is the Yugoslavian special unit. Does anyone thing it needs to be nerfed?

Halakbalakbalak · 10-16-2007

I think you guys jsut need to replace it completely... with ... oh I dont know... something origanal... like something... ORIGANAL.

Footmen_Legion · 10-16-2007

gets killed in 1hit to tanks it does not really need to be nerfed at all = mainly vs and put infantry to a good use

Halakbalakbalak · 10-16-2007

um the thing is that its a land whor eunit... i cant count how many times yugoslavia has gone into the desert and consumed all my **** -.-

SilentShadow31 · 10-16-2007

i think don't it should be nerfed because right now it cost 58 gold, 8 wood, and 18 food (the 8 milita are included), they take done human buildings very fast, they kill tanks with one hit and die from tanks in one hit (same as regular tanks, so it is more cost effective to get regular tanks for human wars) . But when they face zombies they are good, but not as good as some people think. I used yugo alot and most of time, after about 5-10 mins i go into north africa and clear it out alone. But they can be countered. I played zombie and someone did that to me will yugo and they are easily countered with a group of regs and spitters. Thp spitter have a shorted range then the BVP, if you send in the regs first, then the spitters, the spitter kill them will the regs distract. And if the BVP's tatget the spitters they are overwelmed by the regs. Also the BVP's suck vs zombies later game. Once the zombies get mutations they are usless because since they cost 18 food, you can't get 2 many, they can't kil mutations (regs) fast enough before they are attacked, and they give 9 regs zombies when killed, and a fair amount of gold as well (including milita). Now if people start complaining then maybe decrease their machine gun range slightly (like by 50) and maybe slightly decrease their movement speed.

BTW i accendently voted yes, i ment to vote no.

WWZ · 10-16-2007

I do......not know what i think :P. I see the bvp powerful but not over extremly rigged to be nerfed.As proven before to halak, i took out a couple of bvps with regs with minimal casuelties and gained alot of gold. So thier not really that rigged. Just used spitters or regs or rage. They can easily be killed due to thier fact of not having headshot and needing to rely on doing the full 20 damage to kill rages or regs( 15 for spits). Also mutants WTFPWN them. Originally the bvp was meant as a medium support unit of at least 3 per army. Thier really useful that way.

TheRussianLord · 10-16-2007

So they're fine as is from what I hear. Halak what do you mean something original? I don't think any other map, or game for that matter, uses the BVP M-80 in it. Some use the BMP-1 off of which it's based, but none that I know of use the M-80.

Halakbalakbalak · 10-16-2007

In wwz we need to make a special unit more origanal the the other units we have... i mean instead of tanks or snipers or soemthing like that... make maybee a freaking bomb sqaud or something similar to that... HELL maybee even make the cities closer to the caost
and make them
able to train sea spec units :O

SilentShadow31 · 10-16-2007

what about a water spec op like those divers, make it so they can only be used as water, but they could be a great help when defending from the sea.

TheRussianLord · 10-17-2007

How about an air special unit for say Sweden? Like the Saab Grippen.

Halakbalakbalak · 10-17-2007

-.-... Well how about this... sweden gets a new spec unit like for say... soemthign along the line of air but not the Saab Grippen... maybee somethign else thats a tad more fit for the fact that msot countries turned to older weapons when the war started... and as for th yugoslavia i still say a water or something on the lines of... a bomb squad?

View Poll Results: Should it be nerfed?
Yes	2	40.00%
No	2	40.00%
Redone completely into a different unit	1	20.00%
Voters: 5. You may not vote on this poll

10-16-2007	#1
TheRussianLord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,002	BVP M-80 The BVP M-80 is the Yugoslavian special unit. Does anyone thing it needs to be nerfed?

10-16-2007	#2
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: BVP M-80 I think you guys jsut need to replace it completely... with ... oh I dont know... something origanal... like something... ORIGANAL. Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

10-16-2007	#3
Footmen_Legion Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 45	Re: BVP M-80 gets killed in 1hit to tanks it does not really need to be nerfed at all = mainly vs and put infantry to a good use

10-16-2007	#4
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: BVP M-80 um the thing is that its a land whor eunit... i cant count how many times yugoslavia has gone into the desert and consumed all my ** -.- Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]** Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

10-16-2007	#5
SilentShadow31 Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 36	Re: BVP M-80 i think don't it should be nerfed because right now it cost 58 gold, 8 wood, and 18 food (the 8 milita are included), they take done human buildings very fast, they kill tanks with one hit and die from tanks in one hit (same as regular tanks, so it is more cost effective to get regular tanks for human wars) . But when they face zombies they are good, but not as good as some people think. I used yugo alot and most of time, after about 5-10 mins i go into north africa and clear it out alone. But they can be countered. I played zombie and someone did that to me will yugo and they are easily countered with a group of regs and spitters. Thp spitter have a shorted range then the BVP, if you send in the regs first, then the spitters, the spitter kill them will the regs distract. And if the BVP's tatget the spitters they are overwelmed by the regs. Also the BVP's suck vs zombies later game. Once the zombies get mutations they are usless because since they cost 18 food, you can't get 2 many, they can't kil mutations (regs) fast enough before they are attacked, and they give 9 regs zombies when killed, and a fair amount of gold as well (including milita). Now if people start complaining then maybe decrease their machine gun range slightly (like by 50) and maybe slightly decrease their movement speed. BTW i accendently voted yes, i ment to vote no.

10-16-2007	#6
WWZ Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 194	Re: BVP M-80 I do......not know what i think :P. I see the bvp powerful but not over extremly rigged to be nerfed.As proven before to halak, i took out a couple of bvps with regs with minimal casuelties and gained alot of gold. So thier not really that rigged. Just used spitters or regs or rage. They can easily be killed due to thier fact of not having headshot and needing to rely on doing the full 20 damage to kill rages or regs( 15 for spits). Also mutants WTFPWN them. Originally the bvp was meant as a medium support unit of at least 3 per army. Thier really useful that way. This is what happens when you drink and [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

10-16-2007	#7
TheRussianLord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,002	Re: BVP M-80 So they're fine as is from what I hear. Halak what do you mean something original? I don't think any other map, or game for that matter, uses the BVP M-80 in it. Some use the BMP-1 off of which it's based, but none that I know of use the M-80.

10-16-2007	#8
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: BVP M-80 In wwz we need to make a special unit more origanal the the other units we have... i mean instead of tanks or snipers or soemthing like that... make maybee a freaking bomb sqaud or something similar to that... HELL maybee even make the cities closer to the caost and make them able to train sea spec units :O Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

10-16-2007	#9
SilentShadow31 Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 36	Re: BVP M-80 what about a water spec op like those divers, make it so they can only be used as water, but they could be a great help when defending from the sea.

10-17-2007	#10
TheRussianLord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,002	Re: BVP M-80 How about an air special unit for say Sweden? Like the Saab Grippen.

10-17-2007	#11
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: BVP M-80 -.-... Well how about this... sweden gets a new spec unit like for say... soemthign along the line of air but not the Saab Grippen... maybee somethign else thats a tad more fit for the fact that msot countries turned to older weapons when the war started... and as for th yugoslavia i still say a water or something on the lines of... a bomb squad? Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio