Maedhros_Feanor

Should we change back?

TheRussianLord

What are you talking about? There are two versions of the map. Both get the same balance and unit changes each version. One has the old terrain. Another one has the new terrain. That's why there are TWO download links in the downloads section. One has the regular version 1.16 with the regular terrain. Another one has teh new terrain and has X after the versions number to specify that it has the new terrain, it's called 1.16X.

Maedhros_Feanor

Whoops didnt notice that. BTW why did u guys even swap to the new terrain? It kinda sucks, and it ruins nos' game.

WWZ

not really. truly i think it improves it mainly because nos's map is an anti-zomb rigg no matter how you look at it. The zombs main base is in the catacombs,where a zombie has close to 0 chance of winning in there. of course in nos's original version zombs were OP and catas were the other way aroun,a pain to defend.But once humans got a few buffs and rebalences, then it became a anti-zomb and the tables turned favoring humans in that map.Thats why for most new players it best to play reg map first THEN go to X version. in reg map its easier to learn what to do and when to do it. in X its almost imba to play if your a dler. Thats my opinion why i never told russian to stop creating old map. I like originals and i saw it as the "noob friendly" wwz version.

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Serenity

Same
Well the current normal map is not even the one nos used, it is diffrent, also the current normal one has a very small eastern zombie force, so the normal one becomes baracade the cattacombs if the humans know what they are doing
and that is no fun for pros
The x version is a real fight because the attack can come from anywhere.

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Halakbalakbalak

Okay... Russian... when i get back in the states for the love of god let me give you the finished terrain for wwz... Its got the rivers fixed and everything...

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Nos-Feratu.

Hey, Serenity. Not to sound offending, but where the **** do you get your information? I gave Russian that map, he's using the triggers and almost all of the units me and Apples instilled so don't say that it's all completely new. Apparently you don't know the facts.

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TheRussianLord

It's the same one, except more cities and about triple the doodads that nos had. Well and the shape of the Black Sea and Sweden got fixed up a bit. Halak my email is [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] get a working email and i'll send you the latest unprot to put the fixes into. Or just use the wc3diplo.com forums to contact me. I check both daily.

Serenity

The ones I look at that say nos and apples on them look a lot different then the ones that have russians name on them, it looks like the ones nos used went farther east. I may be wrong apparently.

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Halakbalakbalak

Russian I got a working yahoo.com email a loooooong time ago.. thats why i started asking if you would let me update the terrain.


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TheRussianLord

Wonderful. I've sent you the latest unprot of X. Put the fixes into it. However do me a favor and don't add anything (like blizzard cliffs hint hint). Also don't remove the shallow water crossings from the rivers.

Halakbalakbalak

Um... I should have it back to in you 3-5 weeks when im in america again -.-... Im using a slow little laptop i can barely do nething on this thing.[br]Posted on: September 22, 2007, 05:13:56 PM_________________________________________________a ll i have to say is... THAT WAS A BITCH TO DO YOU KNOW!!!!!

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