The Modern Battleship

TheRussianLord · 08-25-2007

The current battleship unit in the game has no actual purpose. It's actually completely worthless. This has drawn my attention some time ago. So when talking it over with Hiyousuck recently we came to the idea that we should turn it into a naval support platform. The ieda is to remove it's attack and instead give it
100 mana
burning aura (no mana cost, it represents various small arms the ship is carrying)
mig missile spell (5 mana cost and lowered cooldown)
howitzer shot (1 mana cost, and lower cooldown to represent several guns firing off the ship)
mlrs spell (10 mana cost with lowered cooldown)

The cost of the ship would also be raised to around 300 gold and 100 lumber. The ship would recharge mana at munitions depots just like regular artillery, except that you would have to build them close to the water.

Halakbalakbalak · 08-25-2007

Wait... then it would be usefulll.... Hmmm, Good idea that should work wonders... but you would need to make it recharge at one near the coast... make the human ports recharge it instead :/

TheRussianLord · 08-25-2007

No way. The whole idea is to make people have to do more to create effective naval bases.

Magura · 08-25-2007

I like it.

Serenity · 08-25-2007

well most modern nations are phasing out battle ships
So mabey not use them in the mod?

Halakbalakbalak · 08-26-2007

Well atm the aircraft carrier is almost useless if you don't pile them up against the undead... i mean 1200 health and the attack of two phalenx guns it to much... maybee give them mana and a spell called airstrike(Use the mig skin for the projectile) Wich would do 100 damage to a sed unit :/

Serenity · 08-26-2007

The power in an aircraft carrier is not the whepons it directly attacks with it is the airplanes you should be refueling there
Usually a fleet has more then carriers in fact carriers are very few because you do not need many a lot of the fleet is cruisers and other small fast support ships.

Halakbalakbalak · 08-26-2007

I know but still the carrier holds plains so thus it should have a castable airstrike ability don't you think?

Serenity · 08-26-2007

I think the idea is that you can refual planes there that you already have
But what about making planes able to garrison inside the carrier or giving the carrier a repair ability for planes only if that is possible.

Halakbalakbalak · 08-26-2007

Carriers can't realy repaire plains... well to a point they can... But in the end they need to hit shore to get parts for repairs etc suplies...but aircraft carriers are used for launching airstriekd away form an air field.

WWZ · 08-26-2007

halak LISTEN TO YOURSELF. An airstrike is when someone calls in planes to attack an area. Our carriers alrdy do airstrikes and we do it manuelly not with spells. what your suggesting is already in the game but in a menuel not automatic form.

Halakbalakbalak · 08-26-2007

.... when the hell did i say manual?
and for the last ****ign time stop ****ign putting words into my mouth i didnt say that so **** off already

TheRussianLord · 08-26-2007

Halak do you even read others posts before replying to them? Seriously.

About aircraft carriers. Their MAIN purpose is to recharge airplanes. NOT to fight the enemy. You have other ships for fighting the enemy.

Halakbalakbalak · 08-27-2007

Then why do aircraft carriers seem to wtf pwnt he other ships... they cost 10 effin food ffs atleast make them cost more food -.-

drunk3n_shaman · 08-30-2007

Immolation=fail

Use Phoenix fire.

TheRussianLord · 08-30-2007

Drunk be a little more specific when describing why. I'll look at the Phoenix Fire spell in a bit and see if it would work as well, but currently I do have a working ability that does low damage per second to everything within 400 range, which is what we need.

Halakbalakbalak · 08-30-2007

I just thought of somthing... the phoenix spell that creats pheonixes in the normal game... just change the skin and attack and you can summon to anti air only fighters >>... though they should be weak... from the airfield... might actualy work *Rubs chin.... walks off*

drunk3n_shaman · 08-31-2007

...and you call yourself a mapper
*shakes head*

Using immolation is nasty it looks bad and the animation is gonna be way harder to do unless of course you want a bigass circle of fire on a battleship. Using PP makes **** easier tin that you don't have to use triggers for it and can just change the animation to the roflcopters attack and remove buffs.

Halakbalakbalak · 08-31-2007

...... ? I never said any of those... I take different rodes in stuff... and ftw who the heck are you even talking to? I never said it was full proof -.-.

EDIT: Russian ge ton more dangit >>

TheRussianLord · 08-31-2007

He's talking to me lol. I disabled the animation for immolation. But I had a hard time understanding the rest of the post.

Serenity · 08-31-2007

I remmember him >>
He annoyed me
Beyond that I forget

Halakbalakbalak · 08-31-2007

Meh , I still say he was vsing a bunch of noobs when he has been playing... and russian nice avatar..

Serenity · 09-01-2007

He yelled at me for omgwtfpwning him with Yugo when he was Sweeds ^^

Halakbalakbalak · 09-01-2007

lol, I think i was in that game wasn't I?
I was turkey and you wtf pwned me with a largeass mass of bvps -.-....

TheRussianLord · 09-01-2007

Bvps are **** against regular tanks. They cost more, but have no splash and 18 food each. Plus migs wtfpwn them like all other armor.

08-25-2007	#1
TheRussianLord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,002	The Modern Battleship The current battleship unit in the game has no actual purpose. It's actually completely worthless. This has drawn my attention some time ago. So when talking it over with Hiyousuck recently we came to the idea that we should turn it into a naval support platform. The ieda is to remove it's attack and instead give it 100 mana burning aura (no mana cost, it represents various small arms the ship is carrying) mig missile spell (5 mana cost and lowered cooldown) howitzer shot (1 mana cost, and lower cooldown to represent several guns firing off the ship) mlrs spell (10 mana cost with lowered cooldown) The cost of the ship would also be raised to around 300 gold and 100 lumber. The ship would recharge mana at munitions depots just like regular artillery, except that you would have to build them close to the water.

08-25-2007	#2
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: The Modern Battleship Wait... then it would be usefulll.... Hmmm, Good idea that should work wonders... but you would need to make it recharge at one near the coast... make the human ports recharge it instead :/ Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

08-25-2007	#3
TheRussianLord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,002	Re: The Modern Battleship No way. The whole idea is to make people have to do more to create effective naval bases.

08-25-2007	#4
Magura Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 177	Re: The Modern Battleship I like it.

08-25-2007	#5
Serenity Join Date: May 2007 Location: Holy Terra Posts: 501	Re: The Modern Battleship well most modern nations are phasing out battle ships So mabey not use them in the mod? HTML Code: By the will of the Emperor! _/-\_ This is my hat I wear it when I hunt witches

08-26-2007	#6
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: The Modern Battleship Well atm the aircraft carrier is almost useless if you don't pile them up against the undead... i mean 1200 health and the attack of two phalenx guns it to much... maybee give them mana and a spell called airstrike(Use the mig skin for the projectile) Wich would do 100 damage to a sed unit :/ Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

08-26-2007	#7
Serenity Join Date: May 2007 Location: Holy Terra Posts: 501	Re: The Modern Battleship The power in an aircraft carrier is not the whepons it directly attacks with it is the airplanes you should be refueling there Usually a fleet has more then carriers in fact carriers are very few because you do not need many a lot of the fleet is cruisers and other small fast support ships. HTML Code: By the will of the Emperor! _/-\_ This is my hat I wear it when I hunt witches

08-26-2007	#8
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: The Modern Battleship I know but still the carrier holds plains so thus it should have a castable airstrike ability don't you think? Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

08-26-2007	#9
Serenity Join Date: May 2007 Location: Holy Terra Posts: 501	Re: The Modern Battleship I think the idea is that you can refual planes there that you already have But what about making planes able to garrison inside the carrier or giving the carrier a repair ability for planes only if that is possible. HTML Code: By the will of the Emperor! _/-\_ This is my hat I wear it when I hunt witches

08-26-2007	#10
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: The Modern Battleship Carriers can't realy repaire plains... well to a point they can... But in the end they need to hit shore to get parts for repairs etc suplies...but aircraft carriers are used for launching airstriekd away form an air field. Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

08-26-2007	#11
WWZ Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 194	Re: The Modern Battleship halak LISTEN TO YOURSELF. An airstrike is when someone calls in planes to attack an area. Our carriers alrdy do airstrikes and we do it manuelly not with spells. what your suggesting is already in the game but in a menuel not automatic form. This is what happens when you drink and [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

08-26-2007	#12
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: The Modern Battleship .... when the hell did i say manual? and for the last **ign time stop ign putting words into my mouth i didnt say that so off already Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]** Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

08-26-2007	#13
TheRussianLord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,002	Re: The Modern Battleship Halak do you even read others posts before replying to them? Seriously. About aircraft carriers. Their MAIN purpose is to recharge airplanes. NOT to fight the enemy. You have other ships for fighting the enemy.

08-27-2007	#14
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: The Modern Battleship Then why do aircraft carriers seem to wtf pwnt he other ships... they cost 10 effin food ffs atleast make them cost more food -.- Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

08-30-2007	#15
drunk3n_shaman Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4	Re: The Modern Battleship Immolation=fail Use Phoenix fire.

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08-30-2007	#16
TheRussianLord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,002	Re: The Modern Battleship Drunk be a little more specific when describing why. I'll look at the Phoenix Fire spell in a bit and see if it would work as well, but currently I do have a working ability that does low damage per second to everything within 400 range, which is what we need.

08-30-2007	#17
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: The Modern Battleship I just thought of somthing... the phoenix spell that creats pheonixes in the normal game... just change the skin and attack and you can summon to anti air only fighters >>... though they should be weak... from the airfield... might actualy work Rubs chin.... walks off Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

08-31-2007	#18
drunk3n_shaman Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4	Re: The Modern Battleship ...and you call yourself a mapper shakes head Using immolation is nasty it looks bad and the animation is gonna be way harder to do unless of course you want a bigass circle of fire on a battleship. Using PP makes **** easier tin that you don't have to use triggers for it and can just change the animation to the roflcopters attack and remove buffs.

08-31-2007	#19
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: The Modern Battleship ...... ? I never said any of those... I take different rodes in stuff... and ftw who the heck are you even talking to? I never said it was full proof -.-. EDIT: Russian ge ton more dangit >> Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

08-31-2007	#20
TheRussianLord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,002	Re: The Modern Battleship He's talking to me lol. I disabled the animation for immolation. But I had a hard time understanding the rest of the post.

08-31-2007	#21
Serenity Join Date: May 2007 Location: Holy Terra Posts: 501	Re: The Modern Battleship I remmember him >> He annoyed me Beyond that I forget HTML Code: By the will of the Emperor! _/-\_ This is my hat I wear it when I hunt witches

08-31-2007	#22
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: The Modern Battleship Meh , I still say he was vsing a bunch of noobs when he has been playing... and russian nice avatar.. Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

09-01-2007	#23
Serenity Join Date: May 2007 Location: Holy Terra Posts: 501	Re: The Modern Battleship He yelled at me for omgwtfpwning him with Yugo when he was Sweeds ^^ HTML Code: By the will of the Emperor! _/-\_ This is my hat I wear it when I hunt witches

09-01-2007	#24
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: The Modern Battleship lol, I think i was in that game wasn't I? I was turkey and you wtf pwned me with a largeass mass of bvps -.-.... Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

09-01-2007	#25
TheRussianLord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,002	Re: The Modern Battleship Bvps are **** against regular tanks. They cost more, but have no splash and 18 food each. Plus migs wtfpwn them like all other armor.