WWZ Heroes

CaptainSnake · 08-18-2007

ok. So a little poll here. Who here things all heroes should have a little change to them so that they don't look so default.

What I mean is they don't stand out in the crowd if you catch my drift.

And how is there vampric aura in real life, as well as a blood mage as a supreme commander.

We demand new heroes and new abilities amirite!?

Halakbalakbalak · 08-18-2007

.... Well for one the auras help alot... and in wwz there were realy only normal zombies... so alot of the game isnt to set but hey... i deal with it... so can you >>.

Mercutio · 08-18-2007

wtb sweedish hero :P

Halakbalakbalak · 08-18-2007

I am all for cutome skins for heros though... and maybee aura units...

DashBake · 08-19-2007

swden has a hero in 1.15x.
Captain snake the attire of a hero really deosnt matter and vampiric aura could stand for bloodlust in the heat of the battle or adreline rush when you kill something.
In any kind of war people do have strange customs and wear strange things.
This should be in the ideas and suggestion thread.
What a hero needs is new ability's one that uses mana.
Like strafing run or charge(sends mass of units you have made to attack which will save you time scrolling over 12 each time and pressing a and clicking on the mini map.)
And in a time of war you dont want people to look too different from the other.
If a medic wore a bright white suit and the regular solders wore camo and the enemy knew that killing the medic would demoralize them then it would be a easy targert.
Same goes for captain or Sargent.

Halakbalakbalak · 08-19-2007

kINDA LIKE DUREING A WAR ANCIENT JEWS, would dress inside of rabbis cloths and the oens who had the eye of the jew would go and wtf pwn everythign >>.

TheRussianLord · 08-19-2007

The heroes were left untouched from the original WWZ that we started working from. Propose some specific changes, and the rationale behind them, and we will take it into consideration.

Halakbalakbalak · 08-19-2007

Honestly... The only thing ive realy got problems with about the heros is that they are the only aura units... we need special aura units so we don't need our hero everywhere we go... jsu tnot incudeing vampiric aura though... that would prove imba.

CaptainSnake · 08-19-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by DashBake

swden has a hero in 1.15x.
Captain snake the attire of a hero really deosnt matter and vampiric aura could stand for bloodlust in the heat of the battle or adreline rush when you kill something.
In any kind of war people do have strange customs and wear strange things.
This should be in the ideas and suggestion thread.
What a hero needs is new ability's one that uses mana.
Like strafing run or charge(sends mass of units you have made to attack which will save you time scrolling over 12 each time and pressing a and clicking on the mini map.)
And in a time of war you don't want people to look too different from the other.
If a medic wore a bright white suit and the regular solders wore camo and the enemy knew that killing the medic would demoralize them then it would be a easy targert.
Same goes for captain or Sargent.

What I'm saying is a General would stand out from a crowd because he will prolly be heavily guarded, and he'd prolly have a wierd hat or something. Anyway vampirc aura isn't that realistic because in real life when you attack something you're not going to gain life force from it.

Also I think I may have an idea to make the general stand out in a crowd.

DashBake · 08-20-2007

Dude do you know what adrenaline is where you get it from and how you acess it?
Its when you become so scared really angry about to die or you have a rush like a bullet wizzed by you.
Adrenaline gives you a huge burst of energy and somewhat of a inibility to to feel certain pain even though this only gives you a couple of minutes or a few seconds of energy you can die from such a thing.
Blood lust gives you such a sensation from killing something on some accounts soilders have been known to charge and to ignore any pain for some time.

CaptainSnake · 08-20-2007

Blood Lust is just a myth, theres no real thing called bllood lust and it certainly won't happen when you have a gun in your hand. It happens with a sword or melee weapon the last time I heard about it.

You will have a rush of Adrenaline when you attack something or in great danger thats how it works. When you're in trouble your body injects adrenaline to your blood stream so you can act quicker and get out of whatever you got in. What i'm suggesting is new abilities for heroes and comparing realism to them. Vampirc Aura is not really real, you DO NOT gain life force by shooting something in real life. This counts for many other abilities as well.

Also I think the head shot percent should be increased on all units exspecially the Hero. You'd expect him to be highly trained ehhhhhhh.

Halakbalakbalak · 08-20-2007

Head shot percent increase would ruin it quite badly...
14 percent is enoufe m8...

and im to lazy to add nethign else.

DashBake · 08-21-2007

Dude bloodlust can affect anything and bloodlust is not a myth it happens to the most everyday people. When a man killed his family in California and then went on a killing spree and had no recalection about it.
He was using a gun. You can be using a piano wire your hands you feet a hammer anything really, To know the feeling of taking somethings life and then taking another is something a person cant really handle because of moral values dude.It addressees this in the book.
Bloodlust is like getting pump up for a battle.

CaptainSnake · 08-21-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by DashBake

Dude bloodlust can affect anything and bloodlust is not a myth it happens to the most everyday people. When a man killed his family in California and then went on a killing spree and had no recalection about it.
He was using a gun. You can be using a piano wire your hands you feet a hammer anything really, To know the feeling of taking somethings life and then taking another is something a person can't really handle because of moral values dude.It addressees this in the book.
Bloodlust is like getting pump up for a battle.

Those people killing random people on the streets are retards and have mental problems. There is still no such thing as blood lust, the last recorded blood lust warriros were Viking Berserkers. Blood lust is a myth, also it still doesn't happen with a gun. To initiate blood lust you must have a melee weapon or at least BE CLOSE BLOOD .

Now I am forced to say,

fool.

DashBake · 08-21-2007

I love how you really don't do research. Blood lust is ****ing metaphor for **** sake. You don't take it in the literal sense. Dude to kill means you insane and not to kill means you are insane. This is addressed in many books. You do not have to be close to blood or even see it to feel your adrenaline rushing when you kill something. Blood lust in the literal sense is blacking out out and losing all control in some sense.
Also viking berserker's really have nothing to do with it. They believed that Thor/or Loki was watching them which is why they used hammers or other blunt objects.
They would bite their shields and make their teeth shatter and go into a state of madness which is why they would wear no armor and loved the sensation of smashing a hand or have a blade go through them.
So i say
Do some ****ing research

Fool

Halakbalakbalak · 08-21-2007

Dude, blood lust is still around... It's kinda like when me or dash recieves the eye of the jew we become a complete badass for quite a time.

TheRussianLord · 08-21-2007

Halak wtf are you talking about?

Halakbalakbalak · 08-21-2007

Dude, I dont know... But There is one thing i have to say.
We need to find a replacement for the normal heros skins....

CaptainSnake · 08-21-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalakBalakBalak

Dude, I don't know... But There is one thing i have to say.
We need to find a replacement for the normal heros skins....

I agree with this post. We also have to replace the voice and the UK hero cuz theres no such thing as a blood mage getting headshots

Halakbalakbalak · 08-21-2007

Well... I have a buddie who has soem good skins for actual historical figures... hes got a decent skin of god also ^^.

TheRussianLord · 08-22-2007

Can he make a decent skin of a human general?

Halakbalakbalak · 08-22-2007

On the hive.net theres a good skin for it.,.... and theres a good skin for replaceing the skin for the royal swordsmen...

08-18-2007	#1
CaptainSnake Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 106	WWZ Heroes ok. So a little poll here. Who here things all heroes should have a little change to them so that they don't look so default. What I mean is they don't stand out in the crowd if you catch my drift. And how is there vampric aura in real life, as well as a blood mage as a supreme commander. We demand new heroes and new abilities amirite!?

08-18-2007	#2
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: WWZ Heroes .... Well for one the auras help alot... and in wwz there were realy only normal zombies... so alot of the game isnt to set but hey... i deal with it... so can you >>. Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

08-18-2007	#3
Mercutio Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7	Re: WWZ Heroes wtb sweedish hero :P

08-18-2007	#4
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: WWZ Heroes I am all for cutome skins for heros though... and maybee aura units... Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

08-19-2007	#5
DashBake Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 98	Re: WWZ Heroes swden has a hero in 1.15x. Captain snake the attire of a hero really deosnt matter and vampiric aura could stand for bloodlust in the heat of the battle or adreline rush when you kill something. In any kind of war people do have strange customs and wear strange things. This should be in the ideas and suggestion thread. What a hero needs is new ability's one that uses mana. Like strafing run or charge(sends mass of units you have made to attack which will save you time scrolling over 12 each time and pressing a and clicking on the mini map.) And in a time of war you dont want people to look too different from the other. If a medic wore a bright white suit and the regular solders wore camo and the enemy knew that killing the medic would demoralize them then it would be a easy targert. Same goes for captain or Sargent.

08-19-2007	#6
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: WWZ Heroes kINDA LIKE DUREING A WAR ANCIENT JEWS, would dress inside of rabbis cloths and the oens who had the eye of the jew would go and wtf pwn everythign >>. Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

08-19-2007	#7
TheRussianLord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,002	Re: WWZ Heroes The heroes were left untouched from the original WWZ that we started working from. Propose some specific changes, and the rationale behind them, and we will take it into consideration.

08-19-2007	#8
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: WWZ Heroes Honestly... The only thing ive realy got problems with about the heros is that they are the only aura units... we need special aura units so we don't need our hero everywhere we go... jsu tnot incudeing vampiric aura though... that would prove imba. Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

08-20-2007	#10
DashBake Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 98	Re: WWZ Heroes Dude do you know what adrenaline is where you get it from and how you acess it? Its when you become so scared really angry about to die or you have a rush like a bullet wizzed by you. Adrenaline gives you a huge burst of energy and somewhat of a inibility to to feel certain pain even though this only gives you a couple of minutes or a few seconds of energy you can die from such a thing. Blood lust gives you such a sensation from killing something on some accounts soilders have been known to charge and to ignore any pain for some time.

08-20-2007	#11
CaptainSnake Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 106	Re: WWZ Heroes Blood Lust is just a myth, theres no real thing called bllood lust and it certainly won't happen when you have a gun in your hand. It happens with a sword or melee weapon the last time I heard about it. You will have a rush of Adrenaline when you attack something or in great danger thats how it works. When you're in trouble your body injects adrenaline to your blood stream so you can act quicker and get out of whatever you got in. What i'm suggesting is new abilities for heroes and comparing realism to them. Vampirc Aura is not really real, you DO NOT gain life force by shooting something in real life. This counts for many other abilities as well. Also I think the head shot percent should be increased on all units exspecially the Hero. You'd expect him to be highly trained ehhhhhhh.

08-20-2007	#12
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: WWZ Heroes Head shot percent increase would ruin it quite badly... 14 percent is enoufe m8... and im to lazy to add nethign else. Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

08-21-2007	#13
DashBake Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 98	Re: WWZ Heroes Dude bloodlust can affect anything and bloodlust is not a myth it happens to the most everyday people. When a man killed his family in California and then went on a killing spree and had no recalection about it. He was using a gun. You can be using a piano wire your hands you feet a hammer anything really, To know the feeling of taking somethings life and then taking another is something a person cant really handle because of moral values dude.It addressees this in the book. Bloodlust is like getting pump up for a battle.

08-21-2007	#15
DashBake Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 98	Re: WWZ Heroes I love how you really don't do research. Blood lust is **ing metaphor for sake. You don't take it in the literal sense. Dude to kill means you insane and not to kill means you are insane. This is addressed in many books. You do not have to be close to blood or even see it to feel your adrenaline rushing when you kill something. Blood lust in the literal sense is blacking out out and losing all control in some sense. Also viking berserker's really have nothing to do with it. They believed that Thor/or Loki was watching them which is why they used hammers or other blunt objects. They would bite their shields and make their teeth shatter and go into a state of madness which is why they would wear no armor and loved the sensation of smashing a hand or have a blade go through them. So i say Do some **ing research Fool

08-21-2007	#16
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: WWZ Heroes Dude, blood lust is still around... It's kinda like when me or dash recieves the eye of the jew we become a complete badass for quite a time. Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

08-21-2007	#17
TheRussianLord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,002	Re: WWZ Heroes Halak wtf are you talking about?

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08-21-2007	#18
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: WWZ Heroes Dude, I dont know... But There is one thing i have to say. We need to find a replacement for the normal heros skins.... Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

08-21-2007	#20
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: WWZ Heroes Well... I have a buddie who has soem good skins for actual historical figures... hes got a decent skin of god also ^^. Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio

08-22-2007	#21
TheRussianLord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,002	Re: WWZ Heroes Can he make a decent skin of a human general?

08-22-2007	#22
Halakbalakbalak Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: WWZ Heroes On the hive.net theres a good skin for it.,.... and theres a good skin for replaceing the skin for the royal swordsmen... Current Projects [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Halted Projects Conflict Rising 2.0(A much better balanced, much better made version of the original.) Barbarus Incursio