Triggering Quick Questions

DarkBlade · 02-29-2008

These have been bothering me for awhile now, so I'll just ask them here.

1. Is there a way to change the base minimum and maximum damage when a weapon is equipped? So instead of the green "bonus" text showing up, it just changes from 1 - 1 to (example) 10 - 20?

2. What's wrong with the "Item Attack Poison Bonus"? It seems bugged :P

The-King · 03-01-2008

1. Yes
2. Theres something wrong?

DarkBlade · 03-01-2008

Any idea how...? :P

And yea I'm pretty sure. It's something related to poison, where the hero does no damage (if he has the item with the ability).

The-King · 03-01-2008

1. Well you wanted to know if there was a way and I've seen it before. I'm not totally sure how to do it since most maps I make don't really require complicated/fancy things like that. The first thing that came to my mind was advanced hero triggers for WEU or item tomes which give attack or remove attack whenever you pick up/drop items(probably would take a while to make and probably is a better way).

Mr. Zero · 03-02-2008

You can't change the minimum and maximum damage by trigger.

I would suggest trying out some upgrades. Upgrade damage does not appear as "green" bonus text, but upgrades can be controlled by triggers.

For example:

Code:

Iteam Damage Upgrade
    Events
        Unit - A unit Acquires an item
    Conditions
        (Item-type of (Item being manipulated)) Equal to Kelen's Dagger of Escape
    Actions
        Player - Set the current research level of Iron Forged Swords to 1 for (Owner of (Triggering unit))

That way you will get damage upgrade with no green text and still you can use it for every unit. Just remember to create a trigger similar but with a item drop event, and set upgrade down again if the player drops the item.

King_Leopold · 03-02-2008

can you unresearch upgrades by trigger, for some reason i though you can't remove them once applied, though i could be completely wrong on this.

DarkBlade · 03-05-2008

It seems as if changing minimum and maximum damage would be alot of work because none of the "Data - Effects" have anything that change min/max damage inidividually. Effects like Apply Damage Bonus/Apply Dice Bonus just change both. So I've decided to work on this once I have some spare time.

And I don't think so... on "Player - Set Current Research Level" it says: Tech cannot be unlearned through the use of this action. I'm sure there's a way of working around that though :P

Mr. Zero · 03-05-2008

Well the third way is use spellbooks with damage upgrades in. But I have no idea how it looks.

Otherwise I'm out of ideas

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02-29-2008	#1
DarkBlade Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paradise City Posts: 618	Quick Questions These have been bothering me for awhile now, so I'll just ask them here. 1. Is there a way to change the base minimum and maximum damage when a weapon is equipped? So instead of the green "bonus" text showing up, it just changes from 1 - 1 to (example) 10 - 20? 2. What's wrong with the "Item Attack Poison Bonus"? It seems bugged :P Last edited by DarkBlade; 02-29-2008 at 10:30 PM.

03-01-2008	#2
The-King Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 88	Re: Quick Questions 1. Yes 2. Theres something wrong?

03-01-2008	#3
DarkBlade Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paradise City Posts: 618	Re: Quick Questions Any idea how...? :P And yea I'm pretty sure. It's something related to poison, where the hero does no damage (if he has the item with the ability).

03-01-2008	#4
The-King Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 88	Re: Quick Questions 1. Well you wanted to know if there was a way and I've seen it before. I'm not totally sure how to do it since most maps I make don't really require complicated/fancy things like that. The first thing that came to my mind was advanced hero triggers for WEU or item tomes which give attack or remove attack whenever you pick up/drop items(probably would take a while to make and probably is a better way).

03-02-2008	#5
Mr. Zero Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denmark (GMT+1) Posts: 2,173	Re: Quick Questions You can't change the minimum and maximum damage by trigger. I would suggest trying out some upgrades. Upgrade damage does not appear as "green" bonus text, but upgrades can be controlled by triggers. For example: Code: Iteam Damage Upgrade Events Unit - A unit Acquires an item Conditions (Item-type of (Item being manipulated)) Equal to Kelen's Dagger of Escape Actions Player - Set the current research level of Iron Forged Swords to 1 for (Owner of (Triggering unit)) That way you will get damage upgrade with no green text and still you can use it for every unit. Just remember to create a trigger similar but with a item drop event, and set upgrade down again if the player drops the item.

03-02-2008	#6
King_Leopold Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,436	Re: Quick Questions can you unresearch upgrades by trigger, for some reason i though you can't remove them once applied, though i could be completely wrong on this. Go to this link, now. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

03-05-2008	#7
DarkBlade Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paradise City Posts: 618	Re: Quick Questions It seems as if changing minimum and maximum damage would be alot of work because none of the "Data - Effects" have anything that change min/max damage inidividually. Effects like Apply Damage Bonus/Apply Dice Bonus just change both. So I've decided to work on this once I have some spare time. And I don't think so... on "Player - Set Current Research Level" it says: Tech cannot be unlearned through the use of this action. I'm sure there's a way of working around that though :P