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Old 01-14-2008   #1
 
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A Official Apology -From Panther

I would just like to say, as of the past almost year now, I have not been acting like I used to once be. I used to value friendship, and respect everyone. I used to think doing many of the things I've done to further myself were abysmal actions.

From this point on I would like to publicly say, LOTN is a Democracy, and I issue a formal apology not just to all my members, but to members of every clan, every forum, and every community. For if I have wronged you, I was wrong. For if I had attempted to injure you, I was indeed at fault.
I have brought many of the woes that LOTN has suffered upon itself, by my actions, and my deeds. I issue now a formal apology to each and every community that I have harmed, and a decree that I refuse to do any such actions ever again. They stand against all that is right, just, good and how the world should be.

Thirdly, I would like to make a direct apology to the diplo, pollama and lotr communities. I will now put forth every effort I can into helping those at the diplo community re-establish their lost order, I have no need for extra membership for them. I believe if people wanted to join, they would've asked me. I shouldn't try and force anything on anyone, it's wrong and manipulative.

To the pollama.com community, and it's members included King Leopold, I let my own ego, and hatred of the fact that leo's maps at the time were indeed more hosted then mine, I also launched petty attacks, at him. Instead of offering insights and other things to help his map making, and further aid the site. I'm well aware that this was a foolish, and selfish move on my part.

Lastly, to the LOTR clans, I would make a formal apology, and say that indeed you were right all along, who was I to ever call LOTN, a LOTR clan, and to try and hurt the community, because I was jealous of the gains it had, and to insult map makers who were better then me. It was selfish, and egotistical, not to mention somewhat crazed. I let my ego over-ride my better judgment and ended up making many enemies, of people who were once my friends.

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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

I was really, expecting more of a response, got a lot more feedback on other sites, but if anyone has any questions feel free to ask.

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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

Uhh...wow.

I really didn't see this coming, as I suspect others didn't either.

But...it was a well received gesture, I assure you of that, and though I've really never had any conflict with you personally, I say thank you.

I'm sure none of us think any less of you, possibly even more.

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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

ur such a jerk hole panther!! JERK HOLE!!

Those who suck up are meant to be spit on!!

ok so seriously.. deja vu much? didn't this exact same thing happen like 6 months ago or something?

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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

yup. and then i guess he wanted to remind everyone. i was too shocked to reply


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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

His english is way too hard for me, too much complicated words. :S
But i understand the sorry thing, i didn't really have any personal argue with him, but i guess if he really means w/e he's saying, thank you panther. And i think you guys shouldn't shove his excuse away like a heap of ****. (Titan) Panther seems to act mature so why don't you.
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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

Panther hardly has a history of integrity, which makes any statement by him hard to believe.

He may be sincere, or he may not be, I have no clue, and frankly I don't care. I haven't spoken to him or heard from him in 6 months and that has been just fine by me.

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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

Ouch Leopold.

I don't personally know Panther-Anthro (or really anyone else on here very well, besides Roy), and so he's never really made me angry. I think; however, that if he went to the lengths to type this out, not just on this website but apparently others (he mentioned some) that we should take him seriously until he does something to make us think otherwise.

You might not have a lot of confidence in him now, but you should. If we all think he can't change, then he probably can't (he's still a human, he needs some sort of support/vote of confidence). I've seen plenty of people turn their relationships with others around (Don-Para-, PM-PyroManiac, myself just to name a few).

Personally, I think he can do it as long as we don't let him forget his creed (that's the fun part).

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His english is way too hard for me, too much complicated words. :S
But i understand the sorry thing, i didn't really have any personal argue with him, but i guess if he really means w/e he's saying, thank you panther. And i think you guys shouldn't shove his excuse away like a heap of ****. (Titan) Panther seems to act mature so why don't you.
It was a joke ciu, and you do not know panther very well. You do not know me very well. There was more to what I said than words alone.

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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

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I think; however, that if he went to the lengths to type this out, not just on this website but apparently others (he mentioned some) that we should take him seriously until he does
his posts are usually that long. nothin' super lengthy about this one, just your average panther announcement


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Panther, does this mena you don't hate me?

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It was a joke ciu, and you do not know panther very well. You do not know me very well. There was more to what I said than words alone.
Was it?
Do you know him very well? Have you seen him in person?
Don't take it wrong, i could've said the same, but i think you shouldn't make jokes about it until panther proves the thing he just said was total crap.
But that's just my opinion. Don't take it too personal.
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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

Don't even try to defend panther and of his post. Panther tried this many times before and he always came back when our guard was down.

If anything else, Panther probably did this to distract us from something else he's doing.
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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

If true, an ip ban would've been a better solution then giving him his own forum if you ask me.

But you got a point, he never insulted me, and i don't know what he did ( well, some parts).
I'll keep myself out of it. Shouldn't have judged over a situation i hardly know. It just seemed so ... unfair.
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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

It would seem fairer if you knew him


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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

Heh, Leo? I thought leo had quit b.net, never see him as online anymore. Oh, I was being sincere, and I guess that means I don't hate Halak. Regardless, Stubby what are you saying? Also, if you don't know me, why would you bash me? Regardless, I don't feel any jealousy or hate towards Leo anymore. Why should I? No point in fighting him, because he doesn't want to fight. Also, there is no real benefit to wasting time going against him.

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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

I'm not sure how I'm never online or what you would base a statement like that on since I'm not friends with you on it....I'm always online....normally afk though unless I'm talking or actually playing a game...
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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

Odd, I don't normally see you on.

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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

well ive never gone to your channel or whispered you so unless you joined my clan or began playing the maps i play there is no reason you should of seen me...
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Perhaps he /whois you all the time?
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well that wouldnt be stalkerish at all...
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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

If you havent noticed yet this appology if fake, we noticed that as soon as it was done on wc3diplo.org, panther is still up to his dirty tricks so dont believe a word of this.
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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

thanks for the warning!


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Re: A Official Apology -From Panther

What the? Light what proof do you have?

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