MrApples

Aight. 6.24 is defiantly coming, nos is just waiting on something called the Risk Engine(RE) from myself.

The Risk Engine is a massive smart system that can be integrated with basically any risk map with little work, and it controls every aspect of the map's coding. Nos gets the pleasure of beta testing it on LotR Risk 6.24, and his upcoming Epica Risk.

I've run into quite a few unforeseen bugs, as I usually do, but I am resolving these issues. The core stuff really is done, right now I'm working on making it smoother, and less power-eating (it crashes the map on startup, too much to do).

What will this mean for you, the player? A lot, but mostly stuff only a mapper would take note of. Like, a lot less lag, no more small bugs, faster up-dating of the map... and a ton of new features (eventually).

I'm only one person, and I have a lot of things that need my attention, so yeah I'm working on it.

And nos also made huge updates on the terrain/content side, but let him tell you that.

Nos-Feratu.

Since I'm tired of people asking "What's new in 6.24?" here is a compiled list of the things I can think of at the moment that are featured. Therefore you won't have to ask me anymore.

(PS: I removed all the previous posts here and please refrain from posting in this topic as it is just a read-only area and if you have any suggestions or additions to what I am posting, post it in ME Risk Edits. Thank you.)

6.24 includes:

7 new nations:
Lindon
Lune
Withered Heath
Dorwinion
Khand
Far Harad
Harondor

Completely Redone Nations:
-Mordor
-Umbar (Removed)
-Eriador
-Iron Hills
-Grey Mountains
-Shire
-Enedwaith
-Fangorn
-Lothlorien
-Straggler's Cove (Pirate Island) moved south, away from Gondor.

City Revamps:
-Osgiliath (Both East & West)
-Pelargir
-Cair Andros
-Dol Amroth
-Edhellond
-Anfalas
-Minas Morgul
-Barad Dur
-Khand
-Dol Guldur
And various other city revamps.

New Fortresses:
-Rhun
-Eastern Empire (Nation of Khand)
-Al-Amrun
-Mount Gundabad
-Tharbad
-Harlond
-Forlond
-Erebor
-Umbar
-Esgaroth

9 New Units:
-Dragon Whelp
-Black Dragon
-Cold Drake
-Dorwinion Axeman
-Dorwinion Swordsman
-Dorwinion Chieftain
-Rider of Variag
-Variag Fire Archer
-Warrior of Variag

Various Bug Fixes/Balance Fixes:
-Water pass from Angmar
-Another entrance to Moria (Via Enedwaith)
-Another entrance to Lorien (Via Rhovanion)
-Another rear entrance to Mordor (Via Khand)
-All nations income now based off of the formula:
#of cities + #of entrances / 2 (Rounded up or down, depending on how often that nation is chosen)
-Black Gate will always be opened.

Other Features:
-Good VS Evil Mode removed (may be back later)
-Carchost and Narchost, towers of the Black Gate added
-Umbar nation removed and replaced with Harondor, moved Umbar to one city off the coast of Far Harad.

Many more features and little things not mentioned. But those are the key points.

I hope this helped all of you out.

VasQuezTheGREAT

Yo is 6.24 out yet. Let me know thanks!

Nos-Feratu.

No, MrApples has made no progress on his "RE" since his switch to VBulletin. He's a lazy sack of s.hit.

MrApples

Yea and Nos-Feratu hasn't lifted a finger to even test the map right or dare try and code anything on his own in all his 'waiting'.

Like to point out the map was delayed 3 months just because Nos-Feratu lied about testing and gave bull**** bug reports.

VasQuezTheGREAT

Well this comes from speculation from what little knowledge I have about the entire process of remaking the map or what it's current status is. It seems that for the last 3 months people have made a break through in many different concepts and ideas for a new and better map and alot of change has happened. (Nos's screenshots from the new map.) But I think It was a horrible Idea to try to make such a drastic change in a map that would take months and months if you have the top people who are interested in this map drooling over the idea of it coming out and it not being delivered. I understand the amount of hard work and time you have put into it but maybe you should do a quick fix so you can release what you have and then make 6.25 the version that has everything all together. At one point some one said that they were sick in tired of 6.23 because of all the hype about such a new and better map. I am probably one of the biggest advocate of middle earth risk and have easily tooo much time playing but I loved it. But as of late I have given up on WC3 entirely because I have spent so much time waiting and checking these posts everyday for the past months really wanting to play this map. I'm sure no matter how much time you take everyone will still love you and play your map and be really amped but its just starting to get really really depressing that its not even close to comming out yet. (I actual dont know if a version came out but when i asked somebody said no, and they followed that by saying, "Nos, were done waiting please release something." I dont think that can some this entire 3 month experience.) So please who ever is in charge of this GET IN CHARGE OF it.

Thanks Again

VAS

Nos-Feratu.

Vasquez. You don't understand the situation. MrApples has not worked on his "RE" for a very long time and in the time it would take to recode to the original coding may take a month or two, then I'd practically immediately have to go back to MrApples.

I feel your pain, but I can't get him motivated. Everytime I mention it he comes up with some joke to throw at me..

Me: Have you worked on the RE yet?
Apples: Gay?
Me: Seriously....
Apples: I'm busy.

That's how it goes. It's starting to piss me off more than any of you so there's no need to complain to me. Send him PMs. Get him to work on it, because I sure as hell can't.

VasQuezTheGREAT

What are you trying to do. Some one I know with alot of freetime was always great with making maps and movies with WC3. Maybe he can help. He loves doing this kind of stuff. If you briefly describe what you need done then I can mention it to him and see what he thinks.

Just trying to get things moving.

Vas

VasQuezTheGREAT

I know some one who is good with this kind of stuff. If I can get him onboard he will finish in like a week because he has nothing to do with his life. If you want just let me know what needs to be done and I'll describe it to him.. and just maybe He Will finish your map.

Nos-Feratu.

What's his name?

Has he made any maps?
If so, what maps?

VasQuezTheGREAT

Alright Nos I found the person to fix your map. He agreed to do it when we got back on our christmas break somewhere around the 20th. I described to him how you needed the RE risk engine and he went into all this stuff so he still knows whats up and how to get it done. I forgot his name, I myself gave up bnet untill this game comes out. His sn is Gates777. Just hit him up when you feel like to go over the details .. Just be like I'm the person who needs the Middle Earth Risk Map done. He should be able to help you out from their on.

Good Luck

Vas

King_Leopold

so out of curiosity what exactly is this RE system, from what I read here it sounds like just a revised generic risk trigger system for risk maps, that said, why is it needed for ME risk, since ME risk was already a functional map, why can't it just proceed with its existing trigger set up?

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GiLGaLaD

The old way of triggering risk maps is a pain in the ass. Overall, the triggering is the most painful aspect of the map..

Nos-Feratu.

Leopold, the problem here is this.

In order to install the new RE I had deleted the old one which also relied on regions (current doesn't) so in order to revert back to the old it could take just as long as it did to get where we are right now. It's just not worth it.

Besides, I think we can all wait.

Lothe

We've all been waiting for quite a while...

DarkBlade

True, but once 6.24 is out, it will be worth it. Btw Nos, the new one gold unit in Fangorn is rigged.

Also, what's the deal on Epica?

Lothe

1g Fangorn Units!?
Gotta check that out!

Nos-Feratu.

Wood Mind? Haven't done much work there.

Epica is another story. I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do there. If needed I'll probably just release it with the old triggers to LotR Risk and forget Apples' Risk Engine.

Halakbalakbalak

You know nos, I am pretty sure I know a way you could balence out alot fo these units... give them 6 die*you should know this stuff* and set the damage ratio for the die to 0 through the top, but make 2 dies on 0 and have it 6 sides per die. it balences most things beautifully because of the good chance to do half or even no damage.

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DarkBlade

Am I too tired, or did that make no sense? I think I understood it, but it seems like it would be imba, so I figured I read it wrong.

Halakbalakbalak

Its a much diferent balencing system then what you are used to, its mostly for ranged units. if you have ever tried it out youll notice it smuch easier to get it all to work.

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Lothe

Seriously Apples, we didnt MEAN 2008 release.

frozenhellfire

I wouldn't mind a nice Christmas day release lol

Nos-Feratu.

Don't get your hopes up.

frozenhellfire

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