PunWisp

Warcraft 3:EG(enhanced gameplay)
Orange: Many things pending, not everything is official but the unit itself stands
Red: This unit is not official, idea based, still planning
green: Official



Humans:
Captains: Powerful melee units meant to keep units at bay while range take out the enemies, phas endurance aura. Using the Captain model

Crossbowman: Powerful but slow ranged unit, good for siege. *Model is pending*

Paladin Apprentice:Name is still pending, this unit is weaker then the hero paladin, and mainly a caster unit with holyshock ability and possibly a heal ability.(Heavy spellcaster unit)

Arathor Knight: These powerful warriors once were part of a mighty empire that started it all, few in number but powerful. This unit is more of a speedy siege unit, somewhat like a raider only lesser in HP, faster, stronger and about the same amount of armor as a raider. Purpose may change.

Dwarven Warrior: These are singly weak but strong in number, they have the ability bash, and possibly another spell(new kind of spell similar to bloodlust???) They use leather armor and are a bit stronger then footman, but with less HP and armor. These are good for skirmishes, there cheap too.
Energy Tower: Powerful energy tower, Effective against air units.

Orcs:
Orc Assassin: These are weak melee units with meld, best for more "sneaky" attacks, there strong, but they arn't hard to kill. Warlock: A powerful spellcaster that can cast cripple and raise dead(orc)

Base Raider: A strong raider on foot, good against killing light infantry and base raiding.(whole purpose of unit is pending)

Orc Battlestation: These are powerful siege units capable of withstanding a lot of damage, has low damage itself, but its a siege unit with a transport ability(maybe a aura?) Can be also used as a movable like tower. I'm using this model.
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Undead:
Icecrown Reaver: A powerful melee/caster hero capable of summoning Icey Demons, Animate, Endurance. Thats all i got for him so far. btw he has blizzard too, only it will be named Icey blizzard with a new model

Icey Demon: A powerful demon with bash and immolation..Similar to a infernal, only more powerful, with chaos damage and is considered "unarmored" so hes easier to kill.

Skeleton Warrior: A basic Skeletal infantry soldier, with 0 armor, low HP and a good amount of damage. Purpose is pending.

Skeletal Archer: A long range skeletal bowman, has several arrow spells, cold, fire, dark, and poison.

Night Elves:
Sentry: A strong unit with low hp and armor. Good for a basic infantry soldier or scouting.

Spells:

Icey Blizzard: A more efficient version of the blizzard, with a different blizzard like model

Summon Icey Demon: powerful spell that summons the icey Demon, this is a ultimate spell like Infernal.

Lesser Bash: A weaker version of the normal bash for heroes(used for units)

I'm needing good original ideas... even ones to replace some of these if there better, i have this project posted on the.helper and the hive, now here.

As many ideas as possible would be great.

Updated
Now, sorry I haven't updated in a while, been busy with things. So I'm updating this thread...
I've been slowly working on a new map to present this on so once this project is close to a full release I will only release a map with what I have so far on that map to certain people to test it out, type down some ideas, adjustments, bugs, etc. So if you want a copy of the map so you can test it out, post your name and email, and I'll send you a copy, and you can battle against the AI(dont play online I dont want others to have this yet...)

Also If I'm going yo go a little further into the project, making we can have special modes or something to change how things are played.

GhostlySpoon

Hmmm, not a bad plan, but make sure they stay balanced. We don't need a few maps with the ****tiest balancing ever seen. I don't really want overpowered humans and weak Night elves, or something like that.

If you balance it, and contribute equally for every race, it will be a good job.

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PunWisp

Thats what I'm aiming for, balance and a purpose for each unit. Each race will have equally the amount of units.

GhostlySpoon

Well, good luck, and have fun.

Tip - Give the champions and other tanks some kind of Taunt move. Tanks are kinda useless against a human player (unless they're really stupid humans) without a Taunt thing.

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PunWisp

Hmm, I'll look into that.

If anyone has any interesting ideas it would be appreciated, I want to get the beta out as soon as possible.

Blocksoul[BAWL]

Well i like the sound of this game. You show some real idea's and I would luv to play it! when its done could u post another forum or add to this 1 about where i can download it?

And good luck with it!!!

Blocksoul[BAWL]

OK with that Skeletal Archer idea i recomend that u make the the fire,ice and poison etc abilities auto castable. And the idea of this is to keep your enemy guessing about what you are going to be using.

GhostlySpoon

They are auto-cast. Duh.

And it's a very good plan. But make sure you give it plenty of mana. Or make the spells cost no mana, but haven't got much effect.

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PunWisp

ill do that then.

GhostlySpoon

Who's a good boy? Yes, you, you're a good boy! ^&

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PunWisp

about the warlocks, most pple on other sites wanted warlocks on the horde lol, they summon weak imps

GhostlySpoon

I see. But make sure the imps can't be massed, or that would be teh gayz.

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PunWisp

The imps would be pretty weak, and a short lifespan

GhostlySpoon

Good. Make sure you adjust all of their base damage and damage per dice and stuff, because I'd be the sort of person to forget, and end up with a spellcaster with strong spells, who is supposed to be weak, and does 5-10 base damage and 50-60 extra with every upgrade.

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PunWisp

the imps wont have any upgrades to use. So they can only be so strong. I might make upgrades later on that makes them stronger

GhostlySpoon

Good lad. Now work harder! It's been at 78% for ages, apparently! ^^

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PunWisp

lol, its gonna stay like that for atleast 2 days, I'm getting on a plane tomorrow morning back to missouri where I live, most of my stuff is packed, so I can't work on the map, once I do I'll get a lot done. I just need as many ideas as possible for the horde, undead, and Night Elves, and I need good ones. I need 4 new units for each race, a new hero for first version, once I get these, a beta can get released

GhostlySpoon

Oh sorry. I thought you were working on it and hadn't updated signature. Oh noes.

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PunWisp

lol, tehe

GhostlySpoon

Back to work. No time for laughter!

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PunWisp

lol, the crossbowman is pretty much completed, haven't tested him yet, i used this model, sense its simple and low KB
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Plus it can talk... Which fits things better.

I gave him the following
Searing arrows
Slow attack but High Damage
Siege damage, effective at buildings
It has a short range attack
same armor as a footman so he has same amount of defense
uses the footman shield upgrade(hes wearing metal armor)
Requires Workshop
Gold: 325
Wood: 20
Food: 3

I'm deciding whether to have him trained at barracks or workshop.

I have added a Ogre to the Horde, with a similar purpose as the Crossbowman.

Slow attacking but high damage
Siege damage
Has no armor to make up for its damage(can't be abused)
Effective against buildings Medium HP
Has cleaving attack(That, bash or pulverize?)
Cost: 345
Wood: 50
Food: 4


Thoughts? Btw I'm also working on a terrain we can use for this. so we dont use premade maps =P one I'm using is ugly.

GhostlySpoon

I like those ideas! The Crossbowman seems to cost a little much gold, though, same with the Ogre. But it just depends on how high the damage is.

Let Ogres have cleave and give them high hp, to make up for 0 armor. I have a better idea than searing arrows for crossbowmen.

Give them a type of attack like Frost Wyrms' Freezing Breath, but change the animation into a fiery one, and change the name, and maybe add a little damage per second? But make it auto-cast and cost a good bit of mana.

And build them from the Workshop, because they're more siege-like and very powerful.

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PunWisp

These are powerful units, they should cost a lot of gold

GhostlySpoon

Hmm, yeah. I have no idea just how powerful, just that 345 gold sounds a lot.

And do you like my Freezing Breath idea? I'm thinking of a name. Maybe Quick/Fast/Rapidly Spreading Flames?

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PunWisp

Eh, there crossbowman, there sieging units lol no need for frost damage