sebaudy

ok,
Until I got a forum for it Idea, Bugs and suggestion can be posted there...

A lil description of map :

You need to take over ressource on map for build your empire. Alyy and fight each other.

So i have put the last version of it, like this you have a better idea of what is the map. In this version it have just 2 race so idea for race and unit can be nice.

we are planning to made Undead, Human, Orc, Elf, Elementals, Dwarf, Demons.

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Maedhros_Feanor

the ideas sound good, but Im too busy to look at it right now, ill see later. The idea of taking over resources sounds good because it encourages constant fighting. For races how about Naga?

sebaudy

Yea true naga Can be a nice race

for now it the ressource is :

Gold :

25 gold ressource
50 gold ressource
75 gold ressource

Unit :

Stable
Wood Ressource
Iron Ressource

Food :

Farm (10 food)
Upgrade to Village (15 food)
Upgrade to town (20 food 25 gold each turn)
Upgrade to Small City (25 food 35 gold each turn)
Upgrade to City (30 food 40 gold each turn)
Upgrade yo Large City (35 food 45 gold each turn)

Now Thats a list of Itmes :

Demon Shield : +8 Armor And Vampiric Aura
Ring of the Damned : +5 all stats
Boots of speed : Speed Bonus
Claws of Attack : +9 damage
Titan Shield : +8 armor and Command Aura

Race Already made :

Human :

Building :

Human Castle
Human Fortress
Human Fortified Fortress
Hero Training Arena
Human Smithy
Human WeaponSmith
Human ArmorSmith
Human Defence Turret
Human Canon Turret
Human Brrack
Human Advanced Barrack
Human Legendary Barrack
Maybe I forget Some But you will see when you will play..

Unit :

Worker
Architect
Human Defence Master
Legendary Architect
Militia
Human Archer
Rebel Knight
Human Catapult
Human Priest
Golden Knight
Elite Armoured Militia
Blood Captain
Gunpowder Infantry
Heavy Cavalry of Legends
Bladeslayer of Legends
Marksman of Legends

Hero :

Outland Marauder
Arrowblade Master
Titan of Thunder


Undead Race :

Building :

Undead Grave Armorsmith
Undead Grave Weaponsmith
Undead Grave Smithy
Darkened Undead Wartower
Undead Castle
Undead Fortress
Undead Fortified Fortress
Darkened Undead Spirit Tower
Undead Bonebarracks
Advanced Undead Bonebarracks
Legendary Undead Bonebarracks
Undead Graveyard (Hospital)
Hero Summoning Area
Undead Item Shop

Unit :

Undead Warrior
Undead Slave
Dark Brood Rider
Undead Death Healer
Death Hunter
Undead Catapult
Legendary Undead Disciple
Undead Disciple
Undead Summoner
Undead Defence Master
Poisonous Dread Captain
Undead Elite Skulleater
Elite Deathknight
Spearlord of Undeath
Legendary Demon Cavalry
Undead Archer
Baby Dreadguard of Legends

Hero :

Titan of Death
Undead Firestorm Magician
Knight of Darkness[br]Posted on: November 12, 2007, 09:32:05 PM_________________________________________________I will put some screen shot each day of the game in this topic
Now its the red base

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Kek3

Alright, While i know yours was still a beta, a few things. Have randomized starting locations. Be it you only have 20 starting locations and players rotate between them every game, thats still better than having every played start at the same location every game.
I liked the early game, it was simple and fun. Something that would help, is to have a different portrait or a way t make new builders stand out. The late game is fun but, it causes smaller powers to be outclassed indefinitely if they don't have the money. If you can think of a way to minimize that effect while still making it lucrative to get it earlier, all the better. One thing i didn't really like too much, was there was no way to improve earlier units. I know in debei's maps (rise of china and ect) he has it where you can upgrade the units. Now, i don't want this to be a copy of that map but, that was a nice feature. The end game is fun if you're at a competitive level, otherwise its a disaster which well, it should be but, it turns off alot of newbs. Still XD the one thing that really got me was not being able to find the fourth tier builder, was pretty annoying. Perhaps you should change that slightly... What i mean, every time you upgrade your main building, allow an upgrade that upgrades all previous builders to the new one. That would however need some balancing.

Any ways, i like the map. It has a healthy amount of room for improvement and a promising future as a fun map. Just re-playability and newb friendly interface/building is all thats really needed. On a last note, consider a discount on a persons first hero? 250g isnt a whole whole lot but, its still a lil costly.


Almost forgot, try making the races a little bit more unique. Their buildings seems almost cookie cutter to the others. Atleast humans and undead seemed that way. Perhaps add some more... Unique? ways to upgrade and or get better units. Such as maybe having certain units like some sort of undead caster, that sacrifices some f your units, and it can upgrade into a better unit? you get the idea

sebaudy

I will probably use some of your idea for the next version like the worker things
But For where you start i will need a bigger map 160X160 its not enough large for be able to do that...
I wan to make more race more unit before doing it And I will probably made some new upgrade for unit.

I think the hero price is enough low like this because if we lower it It will gay a lil bit...
But if you got idea for Race (Unit name, Building, Items) It can be Nice also if you think about new ressource building just let us know.

And for the fourth tier Builder I know You cant find it because it dont have 1...

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DarkBlade

Yea, they all sound good. I'll see about implementing them after I make Naga.

Anyways, heres a list of things I'm trying to get done soon.

Next Version:
-New race (Naga)
-More items, and balancing of the old ones
-Some random polishes...
-Reinforcements, for if your main building goes under ---- health (tell me what you think of it)
-And finally, Kek3's suggestions


Near Future
-Balancing all units (this means Hero abilities also, and might be in next version instead)
-More items (of course)
-New race (maybe)
-Future suggestions (if reasonable :P)

Well, here's a SS I took (it took me a couple mins to get rdy )

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sebaudy

Nice screen shot N0va

If some of you got any idea for hero name unit name things like this Just post it there

I hope aplle will make us a Forum soon It will be really more organised then a topic lol

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DarkBlade

Those names were made up quick on the old map :P I can replace them easily.

King Stubby

here are my random names, use em as you wish

Fizgig Wopplepopper

Huk'huk

Poilo Gorr

Mi Tlof

BACONATOR_TRONX5000_BLASTERBOT

Huga Lotts

Warl 'Ord

Jakkda Ripa

Kumba Lort

dumb names, i know, but they ARE names :P

sebaudy

But Do you have play it?

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King Stubby

huh?

sebaudy

Do you have play it?
If no dl it and host it:P

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sebaudy

I am thinking about make dragon, elf, naga, orc, elementals for new race...

And after I will made a new terrain with water and add some boats(Attack and transport) Like this maybe it will have some special ressource on island and I will made the map more big. At top of the map it will be the north so = winter At down of the map(south) It will be the desert. Like this it will look really better.

I will probably add more ressource.

But At the next release it will have all race made and some bugs fixed, new items, probabaly some tips during the game for help new player.

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DarkBlade

Double post ftl :P

Anyway, I figure since I'm only the item editor now, I'd give suggestions instead...

1 - (Just a question) How would Elementals and Dragons work? There wouldn't be enough models to make a whole race out of them...
2 - Make a Scout type unit (told you this, just a reminder)
3 - Don't make the unit descriptions and stuff of new races same as the ones I made for Human/Undead :P
4 - Work on getting atleast 1 ability for each unit, and make new balanced ones for heroes

sebaudy

Ok, probably I will make race Elemtals/Dragon Thsi in 1 race I think that can be nice...[br]Posted on: November 15, 2007, 10:18:11 PM_________________________________________________T ips: If you want to help me for the map I need a terrain maker cuz this 1 suck to much.. I want 1 with some island water Winter at north and summer at south... The size will be 224x224..


Some screenshot of the Naga Race let me know what you think about it...

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King Stubby

maybe a tauren and troll race? there are tons of hive models, normal models, and some structures already existing to make the 2 races, (there are also some skins!)

sebaudy

Naga will be probably finished today

Yep Tauren and Orc can be a good idea for race But
I need to finish naga..
After made Orc, Elf and elementals...
But I think i will made them 2..

But after made them I will relly need a nice terrain. I will probably put dg away from Computer ressource and use neautral hostil things like this we will be able to have 12 players on it...
It can be nice I will post some new screenshot of the naga when I will have finish them

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A screen shot of the new terrain

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DarkBlade

There is barely any room to move in there :P Other than that terrain is ok.

sebaudy

Do you like more this style?

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DarkBlade

I like them both :P So whichever one you could finish faster I guess :P

Maedhros_Feanor

I think the dragon race could be good. There are several different units for them, all you would need to do is get custom buildings. You could make the dragons excellent in offensive and in speed, but ****ty in buildings and upgrades? You could have those dragon melee units (the ones that aren't really dragons) and then the flying dragons.

Hellshadowhound

You mean dragonspawn right? That is exactly wut i was gonna say, btw i havent played this map yet but i dled beta with undead and humans only and it looks cool.

May i suggest an ogre/magnataur race. They would be slow but the race with most health of about everything, but they would lack most ranged units and only get like a few. Maybe have centaur part of that too them being the fast weak part of the race.

King Stubby

while we're talking about races... what about a SEA CREATURE RACE?
basically this race is the "zerglings" of the game. (except hydras! they're better than tauren!)

it would consist of
*makrura
*Murlocs
*Those whale doodads (the flying unit of the seeeeeeaaaa creatures!)
*Murguls
*Schools of fish
*Hydras

sebaudy

Yep that can be a nice idea
But I will finish the new terrain first, After this I will finish nagga and add new race
Keep posting your idea..

And for Race gave me some example of hero name and Unit name :P

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Hellshadowhound

Magnataur/centaur/tauren race to make the Hoof Race.

Heroes could be 1 from each type
Shaka Windburner, Centaur Elder-Centaur sorcerer model and based on fire/wind abilities.
Anouken Earthbender, Tauren Shaman Chieftain-Tauren chief or custom model, based on earth and tauren abilities(warstomp, shockwave, reincarnate are some, pulzerise is another)
Kargoth the Decimator, Mongor Chief-Magnataur Destroyer or custom model, based on strength abilitys, strongest but slowest of all heroes.