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Old 09-13-2008   #1
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Things to be done and have done

This thread is to discuss what we have done and what we haven't done

Terrain: 83%
Doodads: 10%
Units: 67%
Models: 53%
Lore: 69%
Triggers:0%
Balancing: 12%

Balancing seems to be the hardest, everytime I play the computer I end up losing most battles unless my army is massive, which then all the computer does is runs away and attacks my base when they can. Some of the units don't seem right yet, don't seem perfect.

The terrain is pretty much done, I just keep adding, only it seems a bit empty because of the fact theres little to no doodads, I suck when it comes to detailing maps with doodads...

Models would be finished if we had the new troll buildings and such.. And its hard to choose sometimes because I'm trying to keep the filesize to below 3MB, which its close right now.

The base lore is finished, it just needs a lot of adding and the full storyline of this project.


We need more models with low file size, we still need triggers, and modes we will want to add,
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whats lore?
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Lore is the story behind it all. Put simply, that's it.
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#1 thing to be done: have a gnome unit.
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Rofl, there will be 1 gnome unit, you mind of its a hero? Hell, I'll even call it King Stubby the warlock. Only if you start NOT MENTIONING A GNOME!? Rofl
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if i bug u about adding a cool unit then stop in a month will u add it named shocker?
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Re: Things to be done and have done

Omfg, lol ok guys just create your own hero and post it here and I'll add it, post the name, spells, purpose, etc. Also post a link to a model you want for it, and I'll make it.
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ok cool! I was just joking about it. lol

Hero: shocker
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Sorry, not accepted, Rofl.
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Omfg, lol ok guys just create your own hero and post it here and I'll add it, post the name, spells, purpose, etc. Also post a link to a model you want for it, and I'll make it.
you said you would... "I'll make it"

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Hey, I take my job as mod of this forum very seriously.

No changing quotes to say something not even thought of by the person you claimed said it!
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Rofl, you got yelled at shocker. Anyway, we will take things seriously when modding here =P. Ghostly probably will take things more seriously if hes not joking, Rofl.
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is there even a rule about making fake quotes?
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I think he just made it up, Rofl
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ok well on topic(kinda)

so now your making a footies vs grunts?...

tip one: dont have 4 huge projects at the same time, it will be rare you get one done.

tip two: How about an ideal thats yours, not just different versions of a map. Like blackice was oragenal and could expand many ways with no limits.
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Footies Vs Grunts? No, that isn't a project, all I was gonna do was delete a few heroes that ruined the game, and fix things so they weren't gay, that isn't a project. And I'm technically working on 2 maps, 1 in which is a huge pain in the ass, which is the melee, I enjoy doing the footies one, which I enjoy. If you think about it, theres not much you can really think of thats "original" Which there are most likely dozens and dozens of maps that have the same kind of ideas >.>. The footies map I'm making shares some of the same concepts, but its going to be very different by the time I'm done with it. Terrain it has now is only until the map is completed and everything works, then, then I will make a new terrain that will make things very interesting, and change some of the concepts.
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http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/r...3Dg%26page%3D2

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1 in which is a huge pain in the ass, which is the melee
just wounding whats so hard about it, besides the fact that your learning to make maps(which can be a pain in the ass when u get a problem). It sounds like all you are doing is making the terrian, editing a units stats and model, importing file(which i think is pointless), and maybe making a techtree.

if u want "original" ideals i got a few.
1. The games 6v6 1 person per team is a general. The country/world has citys, goldmines, forts, graveyards (undead only) to give you income. Each thing hase a different rank. e.x. outpost, fort, caslte but not upgrade able. The generals buy troops which = an army. when one genrals troops reachs an other generals troop you enter the battle field.The battle field depends were they are. e.x. by a city = a city fight, buy a castle means a person is sieging it, and in the open could be moiuntians or hill area. Each player gets 1/6 of the army and they fight over controll poinst(more controll points = win battle). I have a complex system to the battles, types of armys, how armys change into troops, and was working on a random map generator for the battle fields.(i have alot of extra time in school to think about this) Sadly i never had time to make this.

2. A completly new type of caslte fight/civilation wars. Each player(12) is on there own. You start with a town and buy biuldings that spawn and send troops to other citys. Each player has a few citys inbeteew each other, and citys have different income values too. If you own both citys on the path were your biulding are you are forced to sell them to stop adv biuldings but you get defences for later. The starting spot and paths to each city would all be random to change gameplay up. Also had a complex system on paper of how to make the map(these ideals give me something to do when i sooo borred in school). This will most likely be what i make for sc2.

See there is 2 complet "original" ideals

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Stubby that files over 300kb!!! and it looks just like a mini pladen which you could just make the model size smaller and i bet it look that same.
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You lost me on the first sentence of #1, Rofl.
About the melee, it really isn't easy, and the only thing im learning more of is terraining, I already know almost everything about the object editor. Blancing, make each race different, making sure units arnt just copies of others. Etc
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shocker:

I don't believe in God. Something that does not exist cannot command me.

And it's MY rule.

And wait, it appears that you did it again!

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Re: Things to be done and have done

lol

For all you know Ghostly, god does exist and is controlling you, prob your whole life, so how would you know? For all we know we are in the matrix!!!


PS I'm Athiest, so no i dont believe in god.

Also ghostly, take into account shocker IS a mod, we are only mods of this forum, Rofl. So maybe we are just as strong as him here, but you shouldnt tempt him...He might bite!
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Blancing, make each race different, making sure units arnt just copies of others. Etc
yes this part would be hard but u cant fix this till you test it, so make a test version all ready! please...

GhostlySpoon i was only joking with the quotes ill stop if you want me too.

btw punwisp i not a global mod jsut one in ba, ba subforms and tactical warfare(maybe one in kla but idk no one posts there).
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Re: Things to be done and have done

Hehe. We have power of shocker here, and I don't post in any BA forums. Too bad we can't ban him from this forum, or something like that. Then I could really annoy him. And God doesn't exist. I believe that.
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I feel so loved

god most likly does not exits(i dont beleave in any regien), but the people who beleave in god got a ton of power. One placed owned by man that was never attacked is the city the pope lives in.
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Ban him? You realize hes doen nothing wrong, Rofl.
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I know he hasn't done anything wrong, I just like being able to say 'Shut up or I'll ban you.'

And shocker, that's simple because he's the closest person to God on this earth, according to the Roman Catholic belief, and that not one true christian on this planet would mean even slight harm to him. And the ones who are Christians, but not devout, are still afraid of God's wrath, and don't harm him. The ones who are not Christian are afraid of the Christian's wrath. America and the UK are Christian, and a lot of places have learned not to mess with America or the UK. Including but not limited to Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Germany, Japan, Russia and China.

He only has power because he was the most devout, and was chosen by 'God' (the leaders of the Catholic church), and he has some control over other Christians, just because he claims to be God's messenger on earth.

He is really just a frail old man.
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If they took over our country, then I really wouldn't be suprised if we were somewhat evil(not to us but to others) Because if my memory serves they would kill people who don't believe and crap, and we might invade countries that aren't Christians countries, and well, the pope would be like a dictator, but because of our constitution(thank god) This can't happen, they don't have a whole lot of control in that.
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Hey, guys? I thought this was about your project, pun.

So do you like the model i picked out? :P
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You never even picked one out O.o, let alone think of a hero, Rofl.
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yes he did its a mini pally(look on page 1) thats 300-400kb..... A pointless model that you can just use a pally with a smaller size.
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that look like i didn't?
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Only difference between that and a normal pally model is that they changed the armor,made his beard longer and white, and shortened him lol.
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which seeing how hes the size of a footmen(or smaller) no one could even tell that he was different.
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he also has different armor!

note the golden color!

ps: this model is king stubby!
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answer is no lol, maybe, but not now, pick a diff model!
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And shocker, that's simple because he's the closest person to God on this earth, according to the Roman Catholic belief, and that not one true christian on this planet would mean even slight harm to him. And the ones who are Christians, but not devout, are still afraid of God's wrath, and don't harm him. The ones who are not Christian are afraid of the Christian's wrath. America and the UK are Christian, and a lot of places have learned not to mess with America or the UK. Including but not limited to Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Germany, Japan, Russia and China.

He only has power because he was the most devout, and was chosen by 'God' (the leaders of the Catholic church), and he has some control over other Christians, just because he claims to be God's messenger on earth.

He is really just a frail old man.
Hold your horses!! Germany and Russia are mostly christian, why wouldn't you mess with those Brits? Just don't mess with American we will take you down.



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it be a dwarf skin! DWARF SKIN OF PWN!
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thats not that bad
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i know.
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