MrApples

Although I am not 100% certain, I am to believe that VG_Emblem is responsable for the attack on the forums and I will give you my reasons why. I was to keep this quiet until I have actually gotten the evidence in order to shut him down but no one cares do they? Except of course for my host and the makers of the forums who would be pissed that their software/servers are vulnerable.

Yes I have stated I knew the IP Address and etc of the attacker, which is completly true. The attacker used the account "Haza" and the proxy address "203.143.238.94". Here are my reasons to believe why he is the attacker.

1. He visits the forums everyday, but yet does not post. If you do not believe me take a look at the "Users logged on today list".
2. The only one who has a record of attacks against these forums, the previous one had much more damage.
3. Is very knowledgable with using Proxies(I have a list of 20 he has used in the past to terrorize).
4. Hold a huge amount of hatred towards me and this community.
5. They are laughing about it on his forums, stating "I'm being nice for not stating who it is".

VG_Emblem you are welcome to defend your side just follow the Board Rules in your posting.

VG Emblem

VG Emblem says:
Rofl your forums got mega-haxx0red?
MrApples says:
You would know wouldnm
MrApples says:
't you
VG Emblem says:
I read about it on my forums
VG Emblem says:
Mrmojorisin created a topic in GD...
MrApples says:
I saw
MrApples says:
And in response I made a topic on my Front Page
VG Emblem says:
Ok?
MrApples says:
SO why did you only edit the stickies?
MrApples says:
Guessing this is like a warning shot or your getting a kick out of it
VG Emblem says:
I didn't do anything
MrApples says:
Yeah, k, sure.
VG Emblem says:
You think I hacked you?
VG Emblem says:
lololloooool
MrApples says:
I think you attempted to do something with a crappy program you found.
MrApples says:
But couldn't do much
VG Emblem says:
And you said you know who did it...
VG Emblem says:
No, seriously, if I had the chance to hack you, do you really think I would do something so petty?
MrApples says:
Yeah actually I could see it
VG Emblem says:
What?
MrApples says:
Maybe you did it as a warning shot
MrApples says:
Maybe you just like making me clean up topics
VG Emblem says:
If I wanted to attack your forums I would so something less easy to clean up.
MrApples says:
Maybe you didn't want to go too far so I wouldn't be inclined to have you shut down immediately
VG Emblem says:
Lol, one of your own members probably did it.
MrApples says:
Yeah, you,
VG Emblem says:
To try to put the blame on me
VG Emblem says:
I believe it's called "framing" or something like that.
MrApples says:
Framing would be me purposely commiting actions to make it look as you did it.
VG Emblem says:
Doesn't have to be only you.
MrApples says:
Accusing you of something and giving why you are the only one with a real motive isnot framing.
VG Emblem says:
Could be anyone else who would somehow "benefit" from it
MrApples says:
Well anyway you can reply to my topic, your not banned yet
VG Emblem says:
I didn't do anything and you know it.
MrApples says:
No actually I don't know it'
MrApples says:
Cause you have a motive
VG Emblem says:
Of what?
MrApples says:
Either you or someone very close to you
VG Emblem says:
If I had the chance to hack you I would just probably advertise my forums
MrApples says:
Well I have stuff to do, leave me be, shush
VG Emblem says:
I get nothing out of "mr apples got hacked" messages.
MrApples says:
But you get the world out of "FOR ALLAH" and mass images
MrApples says:
Same concept.
VG Emblem says:
No
MrApples says:
You have something to say tio defend your case post it on the topic, otherwise shoo.
VG Emblem says:
The images are hard to clean up and you don't know how to easily block them.


P.S. Hacking is lame and you all know that if I was going to do something it would be better and I wouldn't try to pass it off as not me.

MrApples

I don't see how this helps you or proves anything, but you cut off the end of the discussion.

VG Emblem

[img width=500 height=250]http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/VGEmblem/ApplesIgnored.png[/img]

CommandoMidget

I have no idea who the two of you are but you two seem like you dislike each other quite a bit, and that you two created Ultimate Footman along with others but I'm not sure. Since I'm new to the forums, I really have no right to be posting here at all, but I decided to read the topic just to see who the attacker was.

To me, it seems that VG Emblem is a decently honest guy/girl(I think guy but anyway...), I don't know either of you at all so I don't really know anything. I agree with what VG Emblem said that hacking is lame, but might this be just an attempt to hide what he did or is he truly telling the truth(sounds like some dumb sope oprah >.> ). This doesn't exactly prove that that VG Emblem did attack the forums. Unless, as seeing I don't know the whole story and shouldn't be jumping to conclusions, VG Emblem has attacked the forums before and used the same Proxy IP Address, but would someone who knows how to hack forums using a Proxy Server use the same IP Address, no. And if VG Emblem DID in fact, attack the forums, why lie about it, I mean, you'd be lying over the internet on some website's forums, its just plain immature, I mean honestly(I'm not accusing you of lying VG Emblem).

I just re-read what you first posted MrApples, and I've seen that the attacker(VG Emblem or Haza, not 100% sure) has a record of attacking the forums(why isn't his IP Address banned from the forums?) and you have a list of 20 proxies the attacker has used I see. I assume that you're accusing VG Emblem of attacking the forums and the previous attack had 'caused much more damage, the IP Address should be banned, and I understand that Proxy Server's make it more difficult to find an IP Address, and if you are incabable of finding the IP Address alone(I'm not trying to offend you in any way MrApples), get some help from others that are friends or others that feel the same way you do against the attacker. I read that VG Emblem is familiar with Proxy Server's so s/he would have a more complicated Proxy Server making it more difficult to find his/her IP Address, like I said before, you could get some help.

I don't see how this proves that VG Emblem did attack the forums this time.

MrApples

Thats completly false, you should be posting.

Never said he used the same IP address as the attacker before.

No, I have a list of 20 proxies VG_Emblem has used at the old forums to terrorize. He isn't banned just cause i'm being reasonable while of course this is a 1 way street.

VG_Emblem thanks to you there is an addition to the rules, No ignoring of Staff. So you will be banned in 3 days unless you stop this.

Halo_king116

Seeing as I too know VG_Emblem, I know hes an *******. Never have I heard someone say hes a honest guy, until now.

Though, until further proof, he cannot be punished without someone disagreeing (sp?)

I do hope this all gets sorted out. This battle has been going on long enough. Either everyone here grows up or more time will be spent fighting, and less on the map.

So if it is you VG_Emblem, STOP. IF it isn't you, still stop, LoL.


Just my thoughts. This bull**** has been going on for weeks. Not only affecting the forums, but the prgress of the map, your personal time, and even other forums!

Well, I hope this gets cleared up, and whoever it is stops.


Have a nice day

mrmojorisin

So this whole post was to accuse VG based on little evidence?

VG Emblem

Oh yeah, you sure do know me. Remember that time when we went on a date and told each other all about ourselves and at the end of the night you--....Oh wait, that's right, you know nothing about me. I only recognize your name because you also post on TheHelper.net, and nothing else. So if I've never even personally talked to you, or even so much as been in the same topic as you, please, do inform me, how exactly do you know me?

On the contrary I am quite an honest and nice guy. Ask anyone who knows me, even MrApples can't say that I don't tell the truth. I'm quite the Honest Abe.

Further proof? There was never any proof in the first place. This is petty accusing. If my dog dies next week, do I blame it on Apples because he doesn't like me?

No worries, the map is still on track.

Kk, I'll be sure to inform Sir InvisibleMegaHaxxors III to stop in my stead.

But this is just too much fun, personally.

Toodles.

CommandoMidget

VG was the attacker so, so techinically he still is an attacker of these forums, but no one knows, only VG does, if he attacked the forums or not. I'm going to quote myself.


What I was meaning that since VG is familiar with Proxy Servers and can indeed hack forums, he would not be dumb enough to use the same Proxy Server(I do need to be more specific at times, I'm sorry about this).

Now there is three attackers, VG, the most recent, and one before VG?

If you have a list of 20 Proxy Servers VG has used to terrorize the old forums, why exactly, would you allow him to be on the new forums(I'm not trying to go on the offense to get you banned from the forums or anything VG)? Unless you know that he has changed since then or gave him a chance to NOT hack these forums and he will be allowed on these forums, which I might be unaware of.

It seems to me that VG did not, in fact, personally hack the forums this time.

MrApples

Very true, I have already 'grown up' through and offered peace with VG_Emblem on very agreeable terms, though he turns it down because he "finishes what I started". And I can't have people constantly causing me more work by 'hacking' the forums, and since hes the most likely perpatrator I called him to defend his case with this thread.

Never had the intention of 'punishing' him without complete proof, but right now he is the only suspect, and the most logical person to have done something like this according to my points above.

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Very funny vg, but sorry I have gotten you to denounce everything that you started this fight about in the first place, and have it on MSN Messenger records. Thus a liar.

A given of course, I seriously doubt he can hack forums on his own though. I'm going with that he probaly found the hack somewhere, along with his endless supply of proxies. THe image that was uploaded showed some sort of long code named "Puma-server".

The only known attacker is VG_Emblem. The most recent attacker is the one that used the account "Haza", although I do not know for sure who he really was, although VG_Emblem is very likely to be the recent attacker too due to his history.

The above is a quote from someone who has been brainwashed by VG sadly. He used to be 'neutral' and posted on both forums but of course. Its funny how some people can find a person trustworthy just if they use big words, but if you translate it they really sound like an idiot. There is no reason for someone to use anything other then common english in public then unnatural intentions, or to be a show-off(or make up for a lack of inteligence).

I'm not refering to this thread, but some other posts VG has used on sites like TheHelper.

mrmojorisin

Vg doesn't brainwash me he just makes me look at a spinning quarter everyday... Oh god hes corrupting me plz stop him apples save me. Oh no hes using big words ahhhhhhhhh multisyllable. Its so sad im so corrupted im like Switzerland run over by Germany.

P.S. Why do you hate grammar so much what did it do to you? Was it your grade school teacher? Did he touch you like a preist?

MrApples

Well I just find it amazing that you decide to side with them even though they give you no options while I allow you to post here regardlessly. You going to get in trouble for posting here mrmojo, oh wait, you are only allowed to post here if you are hurting the community in some way, so I guess I should ban you right?

I have nothing against grammar, since I use it myself. I was refering to how VG likes to use big words to get people on his side. I'll get an example for ya.

In response to my posting of a conversation between VG and I concerning his policy on map 'partners' which I had told him multiple times that I would post unless he denounced it.

Applying words; 'consequently'
Non-existant but still applying words; 'imba' 'permastunned'
Noteable: He says I am displaying stupidity by posting his own opinion on 'map partners', which it was meant as a warning to. If he would have denounced it which I asked him multiple times to do I would not have posted it. This of course applies to people's lack of noticing how people can say and be believed without any evidence, point, or whatever.

mrmojorisin

And your saying I shouldn't be supporting VG because you let me post at both sites? ahhhhh how nice of you to do such a thing :-* :-* :-*. I side with VG cause you seem like your full of bs all the time like a politician commenting very neutral trying to win people over to your side and never wanting to offend anyone. And I dont care wat you say VG has his reasons why he does what he does and i can understand them.

VG Emblem

No options? So I'm going to grab him through his screen and rape his skull or something if he posts on both? Those measures are to avoid spies. I'm a careful man with a tactical mind, nothing more.

Oh noes, big words!!!! Jesus Christ I use what words apply to the situation best. I have a large vocabularly of words in comparison to most idiots on the Internet, but still, this is how I type normally. Tell me, which word would fit better in that situation than 'consequently'? It's the word that fits, nothing more. Imba is a shortened version of imbalanced, which is a reference to idiots in WarCraft 3. Permastunned is considered the epitomy of 'imba'.

And I called you stupid because you posted it in a thread which had absolutely nothing to do with what you posted. You were trying to de-rail my previously on-track thread, nothing less, nothing more. Don't act like you weren't and like you haven't before. Here's the thread if you don't believe me. See for yourself.

MrApples

No thats just one of the many differences but no longer. According to their rules you must be hurting this site somehow so you are banned. Besides I have been paying attention to your posts over there and you sound just like the rest of them now. Everyone has their reasons don't they?

By the way VG, you might as well get off that proxy of yours, this forum software tracks everything you use even if you don't post and compiles it into a nice little report for me.

MrApples

Deleted due to offense, VG.

Yes they are banned, cause if they post anything you will just make a joke of it and ban them if they have anything to say about that. Basically you can't comphrehend opinions other then your own so theres no point. Oh I'm banned due to mass spamming? You mean the global announcement everyone should have known about anyway.

However for you, you spammed mass images in every topic which was many hours of cleanup, your saying your ban should be reinstated?